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Six things I’ve learnt from working with the Demonic

Six items that have been hard won, not gleaned from any other practitioner but dripped out of my own experience.  Take it or leave it.

1. Respect = Currency

Very early on in my interactions with the Demonic, I quickly realised that respect trumps everything. It’s about a deep down acceptance and acknowledgement that respect is the ultimate ‘currency’. As far as I know at this time, it’s the only thing that translates across the worlds.

This respect is not the ‘gee-whizz, you’re bigger, stronger, scarier, I’m scared‘ type of reaction. Nor is it the ‘kiss-ass I’m shuddering-in-my-boots-grovellingcaricature. The Demonic  – these ‘ancient beings replete with wisdom‘ can see through that nonsense a mile off. This relationship is not a game.

It’s an interaction with strong-willed energies who have been here long before this planet and will long be in existence long after it’s gone.

Respect rises from ‘deep down things’ as recognition these are the ultimate original ancient beings, who have, by the way, been maligned throughout centuries by humans. They can tell respect from bullshit.

I’ve learnt: Authentic respect always main lines.

2. Ditch the explanation

Much of our interaction is about asking for stuff or as magicians/sorcerers, learning to manifest stuff. Spirits don’t care about your ‘why’.

As Gordon White of Runesoup.com says:

“…the spirits don’t care why you want that raise. Don’t waste your time setting an intention like “I get a pay raise so I can pay for my brother’s medical bills…”

No one cares. If you want a raise, you want a raise. Your reason or excuse is not going to get you any sympathy.

That also means, when you get that raise, what’s your plan to manage the extra cash responsibly, what’s the exchange for the outcome, what’s the parameters of the respect and will that be enough?

If you knew someone on the physical plane who could really pull the strings to ensure you had a raise at work of X dollars in Y days or weeks, we understand that they’re gonna want something in return, right? (And if you really do know someone like this, they’re probably going to be easier to deal with than the demonic).

Same for the demonic. Do you know what that is, what it looks like, and what it’ll cost you in time and energy.  Loan sharks, fixers, or influencers, they’re all going to extract their ‘pound of flesh’ for the favour.

I’ve learnt: Ditch the explanation-thinking. Make it all about clarity, intention and meet your responsibilities.

3. Keep the Cracks Open

This is a principle centered around the human tendency to use ‘middle-men’ or to call on other humans (online and offline) for answers to questions about the Demonic or the Spirits.

If you wanted to learn French – who’s ideal to teach you? Your best friend also learning French or a native French speaker? One born and raised in the culture and language or someone, like you (aka a middle-man), learning it?

Same goes for the Demonic. You have questions? They have answers.

Out of respect to the Spirits/Demonic etc.,  we practitioners in the craft (aka each and every one of us who are learners) must ‘keep the cracks open’. This means – not answering every single question from those ‘new’ to the craft. As practitioners, we have a responsibility to yield to authority and pay respect.

If a ‘newbie’ asks after a certain Spirit/Demonic etc of the appropriate ‘smells-bells-flames-directions’ etc, the reality is, my answer will only ever be a pale reflection.

The general collective might say – Belial is in the North and should have a Gold Candle burning Frankincense. (It’s the ‘shoulds’ that worry me). Belial himself might tell you, I’m in the South to you. Fire up a Purple Candle, and please burn some Sage.

To the newbies out there, (myself included) please do the hard-yards like every other practitioner before you, and pay [your-demonic-spirit] the respect of inquiring directly.

Stop using ‘middle-men’. Really.  Ask the Demonic First.  Directly.

Don’t ask your Facebook buddies. Google if you must. But never expect to get the total answer from a ‘middle-man’. Time to take the risk – the hard yard – the effort – and ask directly. See what you get and move forward. I ditched asking other humans for answers a long long time ago.

First, I’ll ask the demonic directly and very occasionally I’ll check in with a fellow human being on the response I’ve got. I do this to check on ME, not the demonic. The demonic have given me an answer and I may have mistranslated or misinterpreted it. These days I only use other humans as a ‘check in’ not as the answer to the question.

I’ve learnt: Ask the Demonic directly. If I’m ever worried if I’m going to offend because I genuinely don’t know something, #1 is a great fallback.

4. Track it*

If it were not for my journals and documenting my interactions with the Demonic, I probably would have abandoned this path much earlier on.

JUST when I started to think ‘this is all in my head‘ or ‘there is nothing in this‘ or ‘I have had no real interactions or lasting message of any effect from the Demonic‘ – I’ve been able to track back through my journals.

Whenever I’d done this, I’ve been overwhelmed by the amount of evidence, the significant detail and relevance, the regularity and connection to aspects of my life and history that Einstein could never have dreamt up. It’s been startling.

The communication and detail is there. So Get Track-able. Date and time locatable. Worried about people reading your journals after you’ve died? So what?? Get over it. Get Track-able for now.

I’ve learnt: We humans need the written, track-able evidence of interaction and engagement.

5. Your morals do not apply

The demonic are amoral. That’s right. Neither moral or immoral. They’re amoral.

Morality operates just fine in a place of right and wrong. The frame or the context, aka the ‘bigger picture’ that the demonic move and exist in, is outside notions of right and wrong. It’s like expecting a fish to be moral.  No shark hesitates over taking a swipe out of someone’s leg or surfboard. Sharks don’t operate in your worldview with your rationality or judgements. Neither do demons.

Unlike a fish however, the demonic might understand why you might be bothered or upset by the death of a friend from illness or accident. They just see things from another frame and have a very different perspective on the event.

As another practitioner has already said, they’re capable of finding amusement or fascination with someone who falls and sustains a cut because ‘the blood looked pretty on the rocks.’** That’s not evil. That’s amorality.

By your standards that reaction could be anything from ‘odd’ or ‘cold’ to ‘sociopathic’. Again, using your standards to explain or understand their response is not going get you far. It’ll be easier on you to remember they operate on an amoral level, which in turn opens up a much richer and nuanced understanding and engagement.

I’ve learnt: Morality is pale. Instead of morality, right/wrong, black/white, these days I reach for notions of Justice and Balance. Rhythm and Directionality. That takes time. That’s work. Get on with it.

6. Time well spent

The final principle in this short series is get regular. You don’t get a six-pack by a single visit to the gym. The same principle goes for the Spirits/Demonic.

If you think ‘taking a crack at it’ or ‘giving it a shot’ will cut it, forget it. This is work for the long-haul. It’s going to take the rest of your life to master, to engage and to enter into a competency of interaction that lasts.

The demonic don’t just want you ‘kinda in’. They want you all in.

Really. There’s no shortcuts to contact with the Spirits/Demonic. As amoral ancient beings they have a fair idea how much time you have in the carnate state and they don’t give a shit about your teeny, tiny boring little story.

You’re either in this work or you’re not. There’s no ‘I’ll give it a try’. If that’s your approach – forget it. There’s no dabble. Dabblers get exactly what they’ve put in.

And if you’ve ‘given it a go’ and dropped out – good luck! you don’t get off scot-free. Anything you’ve said or done that’s binding during that time, they have all the time to follow up on.

Consequences and responsibility.


* Composite header image includes the Contraves-Goerz Kineto Tracking Mount (KTM) at  the Kennedy Space Centre in Florida used to track the NASA space Shuttle during launch ascent.

** I think this is a comment from Sorceress Cagliastro. I need to listen back in her podcasts to check this. This comment is not online right now.

This post has been inspired by a fellow practitioner from The King Paimon blog – ‘Working with Demons: What I have learnt so far

16 December 2017

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